Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/27/2020 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:29 AM Start
09:03:21 AM Presentation: Savings Accounts, Budget Reserves, and Cash Deficiency
10:47:46 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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Deficiency
- Acting Commissioner Mike Barnhill &
Pamela Leary, State Investment Officer,
Department of Revenue
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 27, 2020                                                                                           
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy  Giessel, Mike Barnhill,  Acting Commissioner,                                                                    
Department  of   Revenue;  Pam  Leary,   Director,  Treasury                                                                    
Division, Department of Revenue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  SAVINGS ACCOUNTS,  BUDGET RESERVES,  and CASH                                                                    
DEFICIENCY                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman stated  that the  committee would  discuss                                                                    
the state's  savings positions and cash  flow. The following                                                                    
day  the  committee would  consider  a  presentation on  the                                                                    
governor's  budget by  the Office  of Management  and Budget                                                                    
(OMB). The day after  the Legislative Finance Division (LFD)                                                                    
would present  its view on  the governor's  proposed budget.                                                                    
He thought the week started  a more robust discussion on the                                                                    
state's operating and capital budgets.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: SAVINGS  ACCOUNTS, BUDGET RESERVES,  and CASH                                                                  
DEFICIENCY                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:03:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BARNHILL,  ACTING COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,                                                                    
stated that  his colleague  would handle  most of  the slide                                                                    
presentation,  but  he  would   converse  on  the  topic  of                                                                    
volatility. He  anticipated that some topics  would serve as                                                                    
an introduction  of volatility  management concepts.  He was                                                                    
happy to return to delve further into the topics.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  expressed  that   there  were  two  types  of                                                                    
volatility  associated  with  the  discussion  of  rainy-day                                                                    
funds and  state cash flows.  He thought the  concepts could                                                                    
be confused because the same  tool was used to address both.                                                                    
He  discussed  structural  revenue volatility,  whereby  the                                                                    
revenue structure assumed a certain  amount of revenue would                                                                    
come in  any particular year and  then did not. He  used the                                                                    
example of declining sales tax  and oil taxes because of oil                                                                    
price or  production differentials.  The state  used various                                                                    
techniques to absorb that  volatility, and historically used                                                                    
the Constitutional Budget Reserve (CBR).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  discussed a  second type  of volatility  - in-                                                                    
year  cash flow  volatility; whereby  cash inflows  were not                                                                    
evenly matched  with cash outflows.  He reiterated  that the                                                                    
state  had used  the CBR  to  manage the  in-year cash  flow                                                                    
volatility;  and  had  done  so   through  a  memorandum  of                                                                    
understanding with respect to cash deficiency.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill stated there were  other ways to manage in-year                                                                    
cash flow volatility,  but the state had  primarily used the                                                                    
CBR. He  reiterated that there  were multiple  techniques to                                                                    
manage  the  volatility.  He stated  that  there  were  many                                                                    
slides  in   the  presentation  with   granular  information                                                                    
regarding topics  regarding state funds,  returns, balances,                                                                    
and asset  allocation. He queried  the chair as to  the will                                                                    
of   the   committee    regarding   hearing   the   detailed                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  pointed  out  that it  was  important  to                                                                    
identify  the  slide  numbers   during  the  discussion.  He                                                                    
thought the  committee might  want the  granular discussion.                                                                    
He emphasized the importance of cash flow.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill stated  that  the  presentation would  proceed                                                                    
with discussion of rainy-day funds and other funds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:07:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAM  LEARY,  DIRECTOR,   TREASURY  DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
REVENUE, stated she had been  with the state since 2007. She                                                                    
first  worked with  the  Alaska  Permanent Fund  Corporation                                                                    
(APFC)  and with  the  Department of  Revenue  (DOR) in  the                                                                    
Treasury as  comptroller. She  had been  a partner  in Price                                                                    
Waterhouse Coopers in 2001.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary spoke to the  presentation, "Update on the State's                                                                    
Rainy Day  Funds and Discussion  of State Cash  Flows" (copy                                                                    
on file). She  stated that the goal of  the presentation was                                                                    
to  give  a high-level  overview  of  the state's  rainy-day                                                                    
funds and cash  flows. She showed slide 2,  "Update on Rainy                                                                    
Day and Other Funds."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  spoke to  slide 3, "FY21  Days that  Alaska could                                                                    
run on  Total Balances (Rainy  Day and Other  Funds)," which                                                                    
showed  a table  depicting the  total estimated  balances of                                                                    
Alaska's Funds  at the  start of  FY 21,  and how  many days                                                                    
each  fund  could  pay  for the  operating  budget  of  $4.5                                                                    
billion absent  all revenues. She  noted that the  slide did                                                                    
not  show the  Permanent Fund  Dividend (PFD)  amount as  an                                                                    
expense.  She considered  the CBR  and estimated  that there                                                                    
would be a beginning balance  of $1.9 billion, or six months                                                                    
of  coverage  of  the $4.5  billion  operating  budget.  She                                                                    
explained  that states  differed in  using revenue-based  or                                                                    
expense-based statistic  to determine how large  a rainy-day                                                                    
fund  should  be.  She  explained  that  each  state  had  a                                                                    
different set of circumstances,  and Alaska experienced more                                                                    
volatility and required greater amounts in reserves.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary pointed out other  funds listed on the table which                                                                    
could  be  appropriated if  deemed  necessary,  such as  the                                                                    
Power  Cost Equalization  (PCE) Fund  and the  Alaska Higher                                                                    
Education  Investment fund.  If the  funds were  added there                                                                    
would be about $3.8 billion,  for coverage of about 9 months                                                                    
of  operating   budget  expense.  She  furthered   that  the                                                                    
Earnings Reserve  Account (ERA)  had an  uncommitted balance                                                                    
of approximately  $10.2 billion, which  would add 800  or so                                                                    
days  to  the  coverage   calculation.  With  the  ERA,  the                                                                    
coverage would total approximately 3 years.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if the amount excluded PFD payments.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary answered in the affirmative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  commented that  the  slide  provided context  in                                                                    
terms  of   state  assets  and   budget  coverage   but  not                                                                    
necessarily how the assets should be used.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:11:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof looked  at  the  slide as  an  academic                                                                    
experience.  She noted  that Ms.  Leary had  alluded to  the                                                                    
fact  that there  were consequences  with  each decision  in                                                                    
choosing to liquidate any of  the funds wholly or partially.                                                                    
She   referenced  use   of   the   Higher  Education   Fund,                                                                    
liquidation   of  which   would   be   detrimental  to   the                                                                    
Washington,  Wyoming,  Alaska,  Montana, and  Idaho  (WWAMI)                                                                    
Program   and  scholarship   programs.  She   asserted  that                                                                    
liquidation of the ERA would  create a loss of approximately                                                                    
half  a billion  dollars  and would  be  detrimental to  the                                                                    
growth of  the Permanent Fund  over time. She  mentioned the                                                                    
percent  of market  value (POMV)  draw. She  reiterated that                                                                    
there were consequences to each decision.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  thought Co-Chair von  Imhof made  an excellent                                                                    
point. He  suggested that  there was  more than  an academic                                                                    
quality  to  the chart.  He  thought  the slide  begged  the                                                                    
question  of whether  the state  was  using the  traditional                                                                    
rainy-day fund like  other states did. He  thought the state                                                                    
was  using its  rainy-day fund  as recurring  revenue, which                                                                    
something more similar  to a countdown clock  rather than an                                                                    
economic cushion. He pointed out  that five years previously                                                                    
the  CBR  had a  balance  of  higher  than $12  billion.  He                                                                    
thought there  were ways to  slow or arrest  the progression                                                                    
of  the fund  balance  countdown. He  asserted  that if  the                                                                    
state continued  to spend without making  structural changes                                                                    
to the fiscal system, one could see where the end was.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked  for Mr.  Barnhill  to  discuss  the                                                                    
difference in the earnings of the CBR and the ERA.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  explained that the  ERA of the  Permanent Fund                                                                    
was invested more aggressively and  had higher exposure. The                                                                    
CBR was  invested with  a lower exposure  to equities  and a                                                                    
much  lower  expected return  than  the  Permanent Fund.  He                                                                    
pointed out  that the  previous year was  a banner  year for                                                                    
fixed income. He expected the  calendar year returns for the                                                                    
CBR would be  very healthy but was dubious  whether it would                                                                    
persist through the end of the fiscal year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:15:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary referenced slide 4,  "Days Each State Could Run on                                                                    
Total  Balances in  FY  2018,"  which showed  a  map of  the                                                                    
United States.  She noted that  part of the impetus  for the                                                                    
information  on  slide  3  had  been  a  study  by  the  Pew                                                                    
Charitable Trusts. She  pointed out that that  even with the                                                                    
large  draws it  had taken,  Alaska was  second only  to the                                                                    
State of  Wyoming for  total number of  days of  expenses in                                                                    
the funds.  The median for all  50 states was about  40 days                                                                    
of coverage.  The information on  the slide looked  at total                                                                    
balances, and the  prior slide showed that  Alaska was still                                                                    
in a healthy position.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  the  total  for  Alaska  funds                                                                    
included the $14 billion total that included the ERA.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill stated that for  purposes of the chart on slide                                                                    
3 and in order to provide  a comparison to other states, the                                                                    
total had  included the  balance of the  ERA as  of December                                                                    
2019. He  acknowledged that no  one planned to use  the ERA,                                                                    
but it  could potentially  be used. He  pointed out  that on                                                                    
slide 4,  the chart had  not included the ERA.  He commented                                                                    
that  the Pew  Charitable Trusts  reports ran  on a  lagging                                                                    
basis  and  the  state  had  not been  in  the  practice  of                                                                    
appropriating  from the  ERA for  purposes  of spending.  He                                                                    
shared  that  the Pew  Charitable  Trusts  had a  number  of                                                                    
substantive  informational reports.  Alaska was  featured in                                                                    
most  reports as  having high  revenue volatility.  A future                                                                    
slide would address the computation of the volatility.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill   continued  to  address   Co-Chair  Stedman's                                                                    
question  and slide  4. He  described that  when Alaska  had                                                                    
over  80 percent  of its  Unrestricted General  Fund revenue                                                                    
coming from  petroleum, the volatility of  revenue was quite                                                                    
high. Now  that SB 26  had been enacted  [legislation passed                                                                    
in  2018  that established  a  new  statutory structure  for                                                                    
expenditure  of  Permanent Fund  income],  and  there was  a                                                                    
different  mix of  revenue, the  composition of  the state's                                                                    
volatility  was changing.  He thought  consideration of  the                                                                    
"right"  level for  the  CBR would  require  looking at  the                                                                    
composition  volatility. He  thought  five years  previously                                                                    
the savings cushion  would have rightly been  high since the                                                                    
volatility  was  high. Moving  forward  with  a new  mix  of                                                                    
volatility that  was part oil and  part investment earnings,                                                                    
the volatility  would come down  and the cushion  could come                                                                    
down. He thought the state was  not there yet since it had a                                                                    
structural problem  with revenues  and was using  its rainy-                                                                    
day fund as recurring revenue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:19:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  stated  that  the next  series  of  slides  were                                                                    
snapshots of the information on slide 3.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary turned to slide  5, "Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                    
Fund":                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
         In 1990, voters of Alaska adopted an amendment to                                                                   
          the constitution  creating the CBRF. The  fund was                                                                    
          established as  a savings  fund to  enhance budget                                                                    
          stability.  Consists  of deposits  resulting  from                                                                    
          resolutions  of  disputes   about  the  amount  of                                                                    
          mineral lease bonuses, royalties or taxes.                                                                            
         Legislature may appropriate from the CBRF to fund                                                                   
          operations under certain conditions:                                                                                  
         Simple majority vote  if  available  funds  from                                                                    
          other  sources are  less than  amount appropriated                                                                    
          to fund  state government for the  previous fiscal                                                                    
          year.                                                                                                                 
         Otherwise 3/4s vote.                                                                                                
         Borrowings are allowed  to fund  temporary  cash                                                                    
          deficiencies    and     budget    shortfalls    as                                                                    
          appropriated by the legislature.                                                                                      
         Borrowings must be repaid to the CBRF when there                                                                    
          is a  surplus in  the general fund  at the  end of                                                                    
          the year.                                                                                                             
         As of FY10, the CBRF was repaid and no borrowing                                                                    
          occurred FY 11-FY14.                                                                                                  
         A Sub-fund of the CBRF was established  in 2000.                                                                    
          In 2008, $4.1 B was deposited                                                                                         
         (1.5 CBRF Main + $2.6B  from GF).  Sub Fund  was                                                                    
          liquidated  in  2015  as required  by  statute  as                                                                    
          funds were deemed to be needed with 5 years.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary   considered  slide  6,   "Constitutional  Budget                                                                    
Reserve  Fund  Historical  Invested Assets  (in  billions),"                                                                    
which showed  a graph  depicting historical balances  of the                                                                    
CBR.  She pointed  out that  the blue  portion of  the chart                                                                    
showed  what was  considered  the "main"  part  of the  CBR,                                                                    
while the yellow part of  the chart depicted the sub-fund of                                                                    
the CBR which  was created in 2000. In 2008,  $4 billion was                                                                    
deposited into  the fund,  so that some  portion of  the CBR                                                                    
could be managed at a higher target of return.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  Ms. Leary  to discuss  the internal                                                                    
structure  of the  management of  the fund.  He wondered  if                                                                    
there were  regular meetings and  if minutes were  taken. He                                                                    
asked about  any paper  trail the  commissioner had  to show                                                                    
the  legislature and  the public  why a  particular decision                                                                    
was  or  was  not  made. He  recounted  that  several  years                                                                    
previously when  the large deposit  had been moved  into the                                                                    
subfund of  the CBR,  and the  Senate Finance  Committee co-                                                                    
chairs  had  objected  to the  decision.  The  decision  lay                                                                    
solely in the  hands of the DOR commissioner  and had turned                                                                    
out abysmally. There had been  concern that there was a lack                                                                    
of internal  structure in  the governance  of the  fund, and                                                                    
there  was  no  paper  trail   showing  the  basis  for  the                                                                    
decision. He asked if there was a structure in place.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:23:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  thought  every commissioner  of  DOR  had  to                                                                    
answer for the  actions taken in 2008. He  recalled that the                                                                    
CBR was  established in  1990, and the  purpose of  the fund                                                                    
was to  deposit settlements  from royalty and  petroleum tax                                                                    
disputes. Over  time the  balance of the  CBR had  grown and                                                                    
the legislature had  authorized a sub account  that could be                                                                    
invested more aggressively. He continued  that DOR, up until                                                                    
2008, did  not have  a policy dictating  when it  would move                                                                    
funds from the  main account into the sub  account. In 2008,                                                                    
a decision was made to move  a large chunk of money from the                                                                    
main  account  to  be more  aggressively  invested  in  sub-                                                                    
accounts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill recalled  that in  September 2008,  the market                                                                    
crashed and  there was  a significant loss  to the  fund. He                                                                    
thought  the first  lesson learned  was that  when moving  a                                                                    
large amount of money there  should be a dollar-cost average                                                                    
and a different practice to  avoid some of the draw-down. He                                                                    
continued  that   the  beginning  of  2009   had  shown  the                                                                    
beginning of a bull market with  some ups and downs but that                                                                    
had persisted  to the present  time and  was at an  all time                                                                    
high.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill shared  that there was a  statute governing the                                                                    
CBR  that  established  a  5-year  horizon.  The  state  had                                                                    
withdrawn  all the  sub-account  money in  2015 because  the                                                                    
chief investment officer at the  time had believed the state                                                                    
had crossed the time horizon.  None of the money was exposed                                                                    
to aggressive  management techniques and had  not been since                                                                    
that time. He thought the  chart on slide 3 illustrated that                                                                    
the state was  well within a five-year  horizon for spending                                                                    
the CBR.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  the  unfortunate  money shift  in                                                                    
2008 could be  chalked up to inexperience.  He was concerned                                                                    
that  roughly  15 years  previously  there  was an  internal                                                                    
practice of  having discussions  and quarterly  meetings. He                                                                    
considered  that  with  the awesome  authority  of  the  DOR                                                                    
commissioner, he  or she had  to have practices in  place to                                                                    
show the  decision process. He emphasized  that there should                                                                    
be a process and discussion that was shown.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  thought  Co-Chair  Stedman's  point  went  to                                                                    
governance. He recalled that there  was an annual discussion                                                                    
and paper trail that  documented the conversation concerning                                                                    
all funds  which the commissioner  had under  its investment                                                                    
authority -  ranging from the  General Fund to the  PCE Fund                                                                    
and others.  He asserted  that there was  a paper  trail and                                                                    
different asset  allocations for each. He  thought there was                                                                    
quarterly reporting.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  opined that there should  be meetings more                                                                    
frequently  than once  per year.  He advised  that quarterly                                                                    
meetings  and a  paper trail  had  ceased to  exist since  a                                                                    
commissioner under former Governor Frank Murkowski.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill stated  that there  were boards  and governing                                                                    
structures for  large funds such  as the Permanent  Fund and                                                                    
the Public  Employees' Retirement System (PERS).  He thought                                                                    
the  benefit of  a board  was the  encouragement of  regular                                                                    
discussion and  transparency to the  public. He  hastened to                                                                    
add  that  he did  not  believe  that  the funds  under  the                                                                    
investment authority  since 2009 had suffered  from the lack                                                                    
of such governance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  wanted to  move  on  from the  topic  but                                                                    
reiterated   that  there   was   a  fundamental   governance                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  thought  that  Co-Chair  Stedman  had  raised                                                                    
excellent questions. He  stated he would love  to return and                                                                    
share further  thoughts. He was  starting to  consider side-                                                                    
by-side  performance of  management, returns,  and expenses;                                                                    
which had been included for  budget subcommittees to see. He                                                                    
thought it  was possible  to see  there were  very different                                                                    
forms of  governance, but  ultimately returns  were probably                                                                    
similar.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asserted that  the commissioner  should do                                                                    
the paperwork.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:31:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary displayed slide  7, "Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                    
Fund  Fiduciary oversight:  Commissioner of  Revenue," which                                                                    
showed a data  table including a pie chart  that depicted an                                                                    
investment snapshot of  the CBR. She noted  the target asset                                                                    
allocation and the fact that  there was moderate risk and an                                                                    
intermediate investment  horizon. She  pointed out  that the                                                                    
balance  as  of December  31,  2019  was $2.1  billion.  She                                                                    
qualified  that  the  slides  showing  cash  and  investment                                                                    
balances were  a snapshot in  time and may  have information                                                                    
that  differed  from  other  sources.  Future  slides  would                                                                    
address  cash versus  accrual. The  one-year return  for the                                                                    
period ending December  31 was 5.48 percent,  which beat its                                                                    
benchmark.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary highlighted slide 8, "Power Cost Equalization":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   o The purpose of the PCE Endowment fund is to provide                                                                        
     for a  long-term stable financing source  that provides                                                                    
     affordable   levels  of   electric  utility   costs  in                                                                    
     otherwise high-cost service areas of the state.                                                                            
   o 5% of the monthly average market value of the fund for                                                                     
     the  previous 3  fiscal years  may be  appropriated. If                                                                    
     prior years  earnings exceed this  amount, 70%  (not to                                                                    
     exceed $55M) of the difference  can be spent on related                                                                    
     identified  programs.  Commerce   is  the  agency  that                                                                    
     oversees  the spending  of the  fund. SB196,  effective                                                                    
     6/30/2016, changed the spending target from 7% to 5%.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Fund History:                                                                                                              
   o 2000-Power    Cost    Equalization    Endowment    Fund                                                                    
     established   from    Constitutional   Budget   Reserve                                                                    
     Appropriation of $100 million                                                                                              
   o 2002-PCE receives $89.6 million from proceeds of the                                                                       
     sale of the four dam pool hydroelectric project.                                                                           
   o 2007-Additional appropriation of $182.7 million                                                                            
   o 2012-Additional appropriation of $400 million                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary looked  at slide  9, "Power  Cost Equalization  -                                                                    
Historical Invested  Assets (in  millions)," which  showed a                                                                    
line graph showing the balance of the PCE Fund over time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary addressed slide 10,  "Power Cost Equalization Fund                                                                    
-  Fiduciary  oversight:  Commissioner  of  Revenue,"  which                                                                    
showed a  data table containing  a pie chart. She  made note                                                                    
of the  target asset  allocation as well  as the  balance of                                                                    
$1.1  billion as  on  December 31,  2019.  The target  asset                                                                    
allocation had a general mix  of about 70 percent equity and                                                                    
30 percent  fixed income. The  one-year actual  returns were                                                                    
21.66 percent as of December 31.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:34:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary advanced  to slide  11, "Alaska  Higher Education                                                                    
Investment Fund":                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      On September 1, 2012, the Alaska Higher Education                                                                      
        Investment Fund was capitalized with  a $400 million                                                                    
        deposit from receipts of the  Alaska Housing Capital                                                                    
        Corporation.                                                                                                            
      On January 28, 2013 the Alaska Higher Education                                                                        
        Investment Fund was  moved out  of the  General Fund                                                                    
        into a segregated fund, and an  asset allocation was                                                                    
        approved to generate earnings sufficient to meet the                                                                    
        seven  percent   annual   appropriation  amount   as                                                                    
        required by AS 37.14.750.(c).                                                                                           
      Two-thirds of each year's appropriation is allocated                                                                   
        for Alaska Performance  Scholarship Awards  and one-                                                                    
        third  of   the  appropriation   be  allocated   for                                                                    
        AlaskAdvantage Education Grants.                                                                                        
      In FY2019, $11.75 million was allocated for Alaska                                                                     
        Performance Scholarship  Awards, and  $5.875 million                                                                    
        was allocated for AlaskAdvantage Education Grants.                                                                      
      In FY2020, $11.75 million was allocated for Alaska                                                                     
        Performance Scholarship  Awards, and  $5.842 million                                                                    
        was allocated for AlaskAdvantage Education Grants.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  looked at  slide  12,  "Alaska Higher  Education                                                                    
Investment   Fund   -   Historical   Invested   Assets   (in                                                                    
millions)," which showed a line  graph depicting the balance                                                                    
over the  life of the  fund, from  $400 million down  to its                                                                    
current balance of $359,000 as of December 31, 2019.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary   showed  slide  13,  "Alaska   Higher  Education                                                                    
Investment   Fund  Fiduciary   oversight:  Commissioner   of                                                                    
Revenue  which showed  a data  table  and a  pie chart  with                                                                    
target asset allocations, market  values, and returns of the                                                                    
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof discussed  the PCE  Fund and  the Higher                                                                    
Education  Investment Fund,  which were  swept the  previous                                                                    
year. She questioned  what would happen in  the current year                                                                    
with the funds and if they would be swept again.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  stated that the  sweeping of the PCE  Fund had                                                                    
been  a product  of an  opinion from  the Department  of Law                                                                    
(LAW).  He stated  that historically  the  state had  almost                                                                    
always enacted an immediate reverse-sweep  and the funds did                                                                    
not  actually move.  He  mentioned  the three-quarters  vote                                                                    
required to secure  the reverse sweep, which  he thought was                                                                    
unusual.  He thought  having  a  three-quarters access  vote                                                                    
required to access a rainy-day  fund was unusual amongst the                                                                    
states. He thought that unless  LAW came up with a different                                                                    
opinion,  the  process  from  the  previous  year  would  be                                                                    
repeated.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  asked  if the  funds  were  swept  the                                                                    
previous year  for a  period of time  before the  vote could                                                                    
take  place,  and  what  kind  of  accounting  quagmire  was                                                                    
created.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill did not know what had happened in the interim.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary did  not know what happened. She  stated that from                                                                    
an investment perspective, the funds had stayed intact.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the department  could get  back to                                                                    
the committee  with further explanation of  the mechanics of                                                                    
the accounting. He  recalled that there had been  a delay in                                                                    
the sweep mechanism.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman added to Co-Chair  von Imhof's question and                                                                    
queried the  position of the  administration on  the reverse                                                                    
sweep.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  did not mean  to suggest  the administration's                                                                    
perspective. He  stated that  from an  investment management                                                                    
perspective, having  a delay and  possibly having  the funds                                                                    
lapse into the CBR and  being reversed some months later was                                                                    
disruptive.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:39:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wanted clarity  for the committee regarding                                                                    
the  position of  the administration  regarding the  reverse                                                                    
sweep.  The committee  had  concerns  about financial  havoc                                                                    
when the  legislature was not  prepared for a  reverse sweep                                                                    
not to take place. He  recognized that the required vote was                                                                    
a hurdle, and  he reiterated that he wanted  the position of                                                                    
the administration to be clear.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill   did  not   know  how   to  answer   for  the                                                                    
administration's position. He  knew that if there  was not a                                                                    
reverse sweep that  the state would have to  move funds that                                                                    
were invested in equities into a  fund that was 4 percent in                                                                    
equities, which would be challenging.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman stated  that the  committee would  address                                                                    
the  question   directly  with  the  director   of  OMB.  He                                                                    
understood that  the administration  had no interest  in not                                                                    
having a reverse sweep.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  had a vested  interest in the PCE  Fund and                                                                    
prior  to the  current  administration, the  fund had  never                                                                    
been  deemed a  sweepable fund.  He thought  there had  been                                                                    
strong legal opinions from  the Legislative Legal Department                                                                    
indicated why the  fund should not be part of  the sweep. He                                                                    
thought there  were two options, including  to challenge the                                                                    
administration  in  court  and   assert  that  the  attorney                                                                    
general's  opinion did  not have  strong  legal grounds.  He                                                                    
thought  there  were   organizations  and  individuals  that                                                                    
wanted to challenge the administration  in court. He thought                                                                    
the governor had stated publicly  that he strongly supported                                                                    
the PCE  Program and wanted  to come up with  legal language                                                                    
to ensure  that future  governors would  not sweep  the fund                                                                    
and  work with  the  legislature  to make  the  fund a  non-                                                                    
sweepable item. He thought both  paths should be pursued. He                                                                    
was  working  with  the  administration   to  come  up  with                                                                    
language to ensure the fund was not sweepable.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  continued to address  the topic of  the PCE                                                                    
Fund.  He would  provide further  information to  members of                                                                    
the committee  and the legislature  on the  strong arguments                                                                    
as to why the PCE Fund should not be sweepable.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:43:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof wanted  to clarify  that if  the reverse                                                                    
sweep  did  not  happen,  it  would  be  difficult  to  fund                                                                    
programs that  the funds provided  revenue for.  She thought                                                                    
it   was  important   to   determine  the   administration's                                                                    
interpretation of  the constitution  and how  it may  or may                                                                    
not continue in the next two or three months.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill appreciated  the information  and would  relay                                                                    
the information to OMB.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  for   members  and  testifiers  to                                                                    
abstain  from  using  acronyms.  He  referenced  a  one-page                                                                    
report  created  by  committee staff  (copy  on  file)  that                                                                    
showed balances  and a  look-back for  the General  Fund and                                                                    
Other Non-Segregated  Investments (GeFONSI). He  thought the                                                                    
report could serve to remind  members of historical balances                                                                    
and returns. The report would be updated monthly by DOR.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:45:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary referenced slide 14, "GeFONSI I and II":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      GeFONSI includes the General Fund and Other Non-                                                                       
        segregated funds invested in a pooled environment                                                                       
        (GF proper= $400 million).                                                                                              
      Department of Administration separately accounts for                                                                   
        each fund within State Accounting system.                                                                               
      Department of Revenue is responsible for investing                                                                     
        the GeFONSI and calculating and allocating daily                                                                        
        investment earnings to each fund.                                                                                       
      185 funds, assigned as Types 1, 2, or 3. Type 1                                                                        
        funds receive their earnings, the others do not.                                                                        
      GeFONSI II was created in 2018 to target a higher                                                                      
        risk return profile and includes funds that are type                                                                    
        2 or 3.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  estimated that  there were  185 smaller  funds in                                                                    
the GeFONSI that had particular  purposes and were accounted                                                                    
for separately but had similar  investment make-ups and were                                                                    
invested together.  She explained that GeFONSI  II funds may                                                                    
get its earnings if decided by the legislature.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary turned  to slide 15, "General Fund  and other non-                                                                    
segregated  investments   Historical  Invested   Assets  (in                                                                    
billions)*," which showed a chart  of historical balances of                                                                    
invested  assets. She  informed  that  the Statutory  Budget                                                                    
Reserve Fund (SBR) was part  of the GeFONSI before and after                                                                    
being managed as a separate  fund. There had been sufficient                                                                    
funds in the  SBR that allowed it to be  managed at a higher                                                                    
target  return  before  lack  of funding  caused  it  to  be                                                                    
rejoined to part of the GeFONSI.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:47:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman looked  at the  account balance  reflected                                                                    
during  1994 to  2004 relative  to the  current balance  and                                                                    
considered inflation  and population  change. He  thought it                                                                    
appeared  as if  the state  was  in a  better cash  position                                                                    
currently. He asked  for comment on the change  from 2004 to                                                                    
2019.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary thought historically the  way the General Fund was                                                                    
used  was for  funding all  different types  of programs.  A                                                                    
practice was created by which  smaller funds were created to                                                                    
target  specific  programs.  She  qualified  that  when  the                                                                    
department  discussed  cash,  it   generally  spoke  of  the                                                                    
General  Fund  proper. There  was  a  minimum balance  in  a                                                                    
working capital  account from which  the cash was  used. She                                                                    
thought  previously  that  with  smaller  budgets  and  cash                                                                    
flows,  the   amounts  were  smaller.  She   stated  that  a                                                                    
forthcoming slide would  address cash balances specifically.                                                                    
The size  of the funds  had grown  but the cash  portion had                                                                    
remained relatively stable.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman observed  a  $2.3  billion increase  since                                                                    
2004.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill noted  that in the 1990's the price  of oil was                                                                    
averaging $20/bbl, and bottomed  in 1998 around $8/bbl. Then                                                                    
there  was a  huge bull  market after  which oil  prices had                                                                    
steadily climbed, had  peaked in 2009, and  then had started                                                                    
to decline again. He commented  that state revenues had gone                                                                    
up dramatically with the price of  oil in the 2000's and the                                                                    
budget  had risen  commensurately.  The  current budget  had                                                                    
reset at  a much  higher level than  the 1990's  because the                                                                    
price of oil  had gone up, and now the  state struggled with                                                                    
the structural gap between revenues and expenditures.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:50:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman looked  at 2004 and 2005  and thought there                                                                    
had been roughly  about a $2.3 billion  increase in balance.                                                                    
He asked  if Mr.  Barnhill suggested  that the  state should                                                                    
try and  keep a  balance of  $3.5 billion  in cash,  and the                                                                    
state could  not operate under  the cash  balances reflected                                                                    
in 2004.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill thought  ultimately  there  was as  structural                                                                    
imbalance  in the  state.  There  were statutory  structures                                                                    
that called for certain payments  and did not have the funds                                                                    
to  cover all  of them.  He  thought there  was a  difficult                                                                    
choice  for  the  administration  and  the  legislature.  He                                                                    
pondered  whether  the  state  would  change  the  revenues,                                                                    
change  the   statutory  commitments,  or  change   the  PFD                                                                    
formula; all  of which the  governor had stated were  on the                                                                    
table for  consideration. The governor  had also  pondered a                                                                    
spending cap and consideration of the PFD payment.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman mentioned the  minimum cash position of the                                                                    
state.  He  was  interested  in the  recommendation  of  the                                                                    
administration on the minimum balance of the CBR.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop added  that there  were also  constitutional                                                                    
payments to the CBR.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill assumed  that Senator  Bishop was  referencing                                                                    
the repayment  obligation. He referenced  Co-Chair Stedman's                                                                    
mention of  the minimum  balance of the  CBR. He  thought as                                                                    
long  as the  state  was using  rainy-day  funds as  current                                                                    
revenue, it made the question of the size of cushion moot.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:54:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von Imhof  thought it  might be  helpful to  do an                                                                    
inflation-adjusted comparison  of 2004 to 2019  as mentioned                                                                    
by  Co-Chair Stedman.  She pondered  the real  value of  the                                                                    
dollars  over time.  She asked  how much  of the  funds were                                                                    
tied up in designated funds.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for the  information to  account for                                                                    
population changes  and inflation.  He affirmed that  no one                                                                    
was asserting there was not a structural imbalance.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill thought  the data  points were  important, and                                                                    
particularly  relevant to  the governor's  proposed spending                                                                    
cap.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked to move on.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill stated that the  cap was adjusted by population                                                                    
and inflation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary considered slide 16,  "General Fund and other non-                                                                    
segregated   investments   (GeFONSI   I  &   II)   Fiduciary                                                                    
oversight:  Commissioner of  Revenue," which  showed a  data                                                                    
table  that  contained two  pie  charts  showing the  target                                                                    
asset allocation  of the investments. She  informed that the                                                                    
total of the combined funds  was $2.6 billion. She addressed                                                                    
the general  operating account, which the  department viewed                                                                    
as  a floor  minimum  of about  $400  million. The  one-year                                                                    
returns  from  2019  for  the  GeFONSI  I  account  was  2.9                                                                    
percent, and GeFONSI II was  6.38 percent. She reminded that                                                                    
the additional  returns from  the fund  went to  the General                                                                    
Fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Leary   displayed   slide  17,   "Revenue   Volatility                                                                    
Management."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill stated that the  point of the next slides would                                                                    
reintroduce  management  concepts  that the  state  had  not                                                                    
discussed in 20 years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  highlighted slide 18, "Alaska  has the highest                                                                    
Tax  Revenue  Volatility," which  showed  a  bar graph.  The                                                                    
graph showed  that Alaska had  the highest level  of revenue                                                                    
volatility of any state. He  thought the point of the report                                                                    
on rainy-day funds  from the Pew Charitable  Trusts was that                                                                    
the cushion  correspond to the level  of revenue volatility.                                                                    
He thought  facts would  suggest the  state should  have the                                                                    
largest cushion since it had  the greatest amount of revenue                                                                    
volatility.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:58:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill looked  at slide  19, "Revenue  Volatility Now                                                                    
Comes From":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           Commodity Volatility                                                                                              
               o Petroleum revenues are 28% of FY21                                                                             
                  projected   unrestricted    general   fund                                                                    
                  revenues                                                                                                      
               o Uncertainty exists "in-year" for FY21                                                                          
               o Will always have in-year uncertainty                                                                           
                  because we base budget on in-year oil                                                                         
                  collections                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Investment Return Volatility                                                                                      
               o Investment earnings are 62% of FY21                                                                            
                  projected   unrestricted    general   fund                                                                    
                  revenues                                                                                                      
               o Certainty exists today for FY21 (lagging                                                                       
                  POMV formula)                                                                                                 
               o Uncertainty today for FY22 and beyond                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill asserted that the  state reduced its volatility                                                                    
in the  time since the passage  of SB 26 and  after bringing                                                                    
on  investment  earnings. He  expected  over  time that  the                                                                    
level of the  state's rainy-day cushion would  come down. He                                                                    
thought  the chart  on the  previous slide  would show  that                                                                    
Alaska's revenue  volatility was starting to  tighten up. He                                                                    
pointed  out that  investment revenue  could be  volatile as                                                                    
well.  He  discussed  the  concept  of  standard  deviation,                                                                    
through which one could see  volatility for both commodities                                                                    
and investment return.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill relayed that for  Alaska North Slope Crude over                                                                    
the previous  ten years, the  mean had been $71/bbl  and the                                                                    
standard  deviation  had  been  plus or  minus  $25/bbl.  He                                                                    
reiterated  that past  returns  were not  predictive of  the                                                                    
future.  He  pondered a  worst-case  scenario  in which  the                                                                    
price of oil  was $30/bbl and considered  the consequence of                                                                    
$700 million  less in revenue  for FY 21. He  suggested that                                                                    
$700 million  was a reasonable  cushion to have in  a rainy-                                                                    
day  fund to  accommodate  the commodity  volatility with  a                                                                    
rainy day fund.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  discussed investment return volatility  due to                                                                    
fluctuations  in   the  stock  market  and   Permanent  Fund                                                                    
returns.  He offered  to work  with legislative  staff on  a                                                                    
variety of models. He thought  it was reasonable to say that                                                                    
expected  Permanent  Fund  earnings for  the  following  ten                                                                    
years could vary up  or down by as much as  a few hundred to                                                                    
several hundred  million dollars  per year based  on changes                                                                    
to  investment  revenue.  The  analysis  could  be  used  to                                                                    
determine  the appropriate  size  of  the state's  rainy-day                                                                    
cushion.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:03:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill continued  to address slide 19.  He thought the                                                                    
state should model  a range of scenarios and come  up with a                                                                    
50th percentile in a Monte  Carlo analysis for commodity and                                                                    
investment  return   volatility,  which  he   thought  would                                                                    
produce a reasonable number for  a cushion. He reminded that                                                                    
DOR  had advised  the committee  the previous  year that  $2                                                                    
billion was  an appropriate number for  a rainy-day cushion.                                                                    
He reiterated that  the state was using  its rainy-day funds                                                                    
as recurring revenue,  and thought the state  needed to deal                                                                    
with the issue.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  stated  that   the  discussion  would  be                                                                    
revisited   after  having   the  administration's   proposed                                                                    
operating budget for consideration.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  addressed  slide 20,  "Volatility  Management                                                                    
Techniques":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Rainy Day and Other Funds (CBR and other fund                                                                          
        balances)                                                                                                               
      Oil Price Hedging                                                                                                      
      Lagging PF Distribution Formula                                                                                        
      Distribution         Formula           Alternatives                                                                    
        (Harvard/Yale/Tobin)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  qualified  that   the  slide  showed  various                                                                    
techniques for addressing  structural revenue volatility. He                                                                    
thought  the technique  used by  the state  for the  past 20                                                                    
years  was  to  use  the  CBR  as  the  rainy-day  fund.  He                                                                    
described  the  "backstop  provision"  in  which  the  state                                                                    
utilized monies  from the CBR  if funds  did not come  in as                                                                    
expected. He  mentioned oil price hedging,  and recalled the                                                                    
state had  last used the tool  in 2001. He noted  that there                                                                    
was a  section in  the Revenue  Sources Book  that discussed                                                                    
oil price  hedging. Ultimately DOR  believed as long  as the                                                                    
state had  a cushion, the  cheapest way to absorb  oil price                                                                    
volatility was through the CBR.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  continued to discuss  slide 20. He  noted that                                                                    
Mexico  used oil  price hedging  and bought  insurance every                                                                    
year on a  particular price of oil. The  practice was called                                                                    
"buying  a put"  and was  the most  expensive method  of oil                                                                    
price hedging.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:07:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked for  Mr.  Barnhill  to discuss  the                                                                    
lagging formula for distribution from the Permanent Fund.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  stated that  through the  mechanism of  SB 26,                                                                    
the state calculated an average  of the earnings coming from                                                                    
the Permanent  Fund that  could be  accessed by  taking five                                                                    
percent of  the lagging five-year market  average. Using the                                                                    
five-year  average smoothed  out  the investment  volatility                                                                    
somewhat.  He qualified  that even  using the  lagging five-                                                                    
year distribution  formula, there  could still be  highs and                                                                    
lows in the earnings the formula produced.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski asked what  Mr. Barnhill believed to be                                                                    
the minimum cushion the state should maintain the CBR.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill stated  that there  was no  hard number  for a                                                                    
minimum  balance  since the  state  was  using the  CBR  for                                                                    
recurring revenues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman stated  that the  topic would  be a  major                                                                    
point of  discussion after the  budget was on the  table and                                                                    
had heard from OMB and LFD.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill reminded that the  methodology discussed on the                                                                    
previous slide would apply to  how the state would arrive at                                                                    
an answer for a minimum cushion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought Senator  Wielechowski's  question                                                                    
was  on  point  and  thought  there  needed  to  be  further                                                                    
refinement.  He wanted  the administration  to have  time to                                                                    
consider the question.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  advanced to slide  21, "Discussion of  State Cash                                                                    
Flows."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary looked at slide 22, "SOA Treasury Cash Flow":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     State of Alaska Division of Treasury Cash Management                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Cash Inflows                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? Tax Revenues                                                                                                             
     ? Oil & Gas, Excise, Other                                                                                                 
     ? Federal Dollars                                                                                                          
     ? Grants, Medicaid, FHWA, Education, Other                                                                                 
     ? Earnings Reserve Funds                                                                                                   
     ? Agency Receipts                                                                                                          
     ? Fees, Licenses, Permits, Fines, Other                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Cash Outflows                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ?School Education Payments                                                                                                 
       ayroll & Pension Payments                                                                                                
     ?Vendor Payments                                                                                                           
     ?Medicaid Payments                                                                                                         
     ?External Program Grant Payments                                                                                           
     ?Debt Service Payments                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:10:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary spoke to slide 23, "Cash Management Objectives":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Maintain adequate liquidity ($400 million)                                                                             
      Optimize cash resources.                                                                                               
      Safeguard State assets.                                                                                                
      Record financial activity affecting cash.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about the first bullet on slide 23.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  stated that  the department  wanted to  make sure                                                                    
there was  sufficient cash in  the treasury to  pay whatever                                                                    
bills came in.  The treasury had targeted a  balance of $400                                                                    
million as a base minimum,  which would cover about two days                                                                    
of  what she  considered  "perfect storm"  expenses such  as                                                                    
payroll and pension payments that  occurred on the same day.                                                                    
The money would be  replenished, and additional slides would                                                                    
address the mechanics by which cash calls were determined.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  the slide  was  an  answer  to                                                                    
Senator Wielechowski's question.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  reiterated  that  there  were  two  types  of                                                                    
structural volatilities:  structural revenue  volatility and                                                                    
in-year  cash  flow  volatility.  He noted  that  the  slide                                                                    
addressed in-year cash flow volatility.  The CBR was used to                                                                    
solve for both issues.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman summarized  that the  slide addressed  the                                                                    
amount of  cash that  was needed  monthly to  make bi-weekly                                                                    
payroll.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  answered in the  affirmative. She  qualified that                                                                    
the funds were different from reserves.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary referenced slide 24, "Cash vs. Accrual balances":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Cash balance is what you have in the bank at a given                                                                   
        point in time.                                                                                                          
      Accrual balance takes into account what you have                                                                       
        earned  and  when  a  liability  is  incurred  at  a                                                                    
        particular point in time. It is what you should have                                                                    
        at a  particular point  in time  after all  expected                                                                    
        receipts and expenditures come in and out.                                                                              
    Simple example: Your bank balance shows you have                                                                         
        $1,000 in cash  at July 31.  However, you  know that                                                                    
        you wrote checks for  utilities on July 25  for $400                                                                    
        that are  for  July  utilities  that  have  not  yet                                                                    
        cleared. You  may have  also earned  a pay  check of                                                                    
        $1,200 for  work  performed  in July.  Your  accrual                                                                    
        balance at July 31 would be $1,800.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:13:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary turned to slide 25, "Cash Flow Deficiencies":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         Prior to 1985, most unrestricted revenues flowed                                                                    
          into and stayed in the General Fund for                                                                               
          expenditure.                                                                                                          
         Over time, the legislature has  established many                                                                    
          subfunds   to   segregate   cash   for   budgeting                                                                    
          purposes, resulting in less cash available to pay                                                                     
          day-to-day operating costs.                                                                                           
         Expenditures can  occur  prior  to   receipt  of                                                                    
          revenue, resulting in a cash flow deficit:                                                                            
             square4 Federal programs require expenditures before                                                               
               reimbursement.                                                                                                   
                   i.e. Medicaid, Transportation, etc?                                                                       
             square4 Beginning of year appropriation transfers do                                                               
               not match incoming revenue.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary explained that the treasury looked into the                                                                           
future to determine a cash flow deficiency.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary considered slide 26, "Cash Flow Deficiencies":                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
         Borrowing from budget reserve funds has been the                                                                    
          solution of both cash shortages (cash flow                                                                            
          deficits)    and   revenue    shortfalls   (budget                                                                    
          deficits).                                                                                                            
         During FY93-FY05,   the   legislature   included                                                                    
          language in the appropriation act permitting                                                                          
          borrowings from budget reserve funds.                                                                                 
         The CBRF was fully repaid by FY10.                                                                                  
       Borrowing from the CBRF recommenced in FY14                                                                           
         Per FY18 CAFR $9.9B is owed to CBR                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop asked if the  $3 billion transfer to PERS and                                                                    
the Teacher's  Retirement System  was included in  the total                                                                    
owed to the CBR as reflected on the slide.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill believed the $3  billion was included as it was                                                                    
from the CBR and subject to payback.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop thought the funds were still invested.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  that the  amount contributed  was                                                                    
closer to  $2 billion.  He stated  that the  committee would                                                                    
revisit the  subject when the  committee was  discussing the                                                                    
state retirement system.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:17:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  displayed slide  27, "Cash  Deficiency Memorandum                                                                    
of Understanding":                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
         Original MOU signed 1994 by DOR, DOA, OMB & LAW.                                                                    
         Updated December 1, 2017.                                                                                           
         Targets $400m dollar minimum threshold.                                                                             
         Outlines  procedures    for   addressing    cash                                                                    
          deficiencies:                                                                                                         
            o Develop monthly cash projections.                                                                                 
             o Monitor daily general fund cash balances.                                                                        
             o Transfer   from    SBR,   CBR   &    ERA   as                                                                    
               appropriated.                                                                                                    
             o Perform temporary interfund borrowing.                                                                           
             o Borrow from general fund sub funds, if                                                                           
               temporary                                                                                                        
             o If    all     appropriations/borrowing    are                                                                    
               exhausted:                                                                                                       
                   Seek legislative action through the                                                                       
                    Governor to access additional funds                                                                         
                    through appropriation from other Rainy                                                                      
                    Day Funds discussed above.                                                                                  
                   Prioritize  disbursements,    restrict                                                                    
                    expenditures.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary commented that historically  there was a time when                                                                    
the treasury encountered  a cap on the amount  that could be                                                                    
borrowed from  the CBR and the  treasury had to come  to the                                                                    
legislature for additional funds to pay bills.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thought that  there should be discussion on                                                                    
the subject. He  was concerned about the easy  access to the                                                                    
ERA.  He did  not  recall  borrowing from  the  ERA but  was                                                                    
concerned it  was easy to  access the account with  a simple                                                                    
majority vote.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  clarified that the borrowing  discussed in the                                                                    
MOU  was intended  to manage  the state's  in-year cash-flow                                                                    
and  must be  paid back.  The borrowing  did not  require an                                                                    
appropriation, but there  was a danger of not  being able to                                                                    
repay the  funds because of  a structural revenue  issue. He                                                                    
thought Co-Chair Stedman's point was well put.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  saw  the  phrase  "as  appropriated"  and                                                                    
wanted to  have further discussion  at a later time.  He was                                                                    
not  personally  comfortable  with borrowing  from  the  ERA                                                                    
after seeing what had happened with the CBR.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:22:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  considered  the  MOU  and  asked  about  the                                                                    
frequency of  borrowing from the funds,  specifically in the                                                                    
previous four years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill stated that there  would be a forthcoming slide                                                                    
that showed the CBR borrowing.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary   stated  that  generally  quarterly   there  was                                                                    
borrowing, depending upon what was seen in the forecast.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  showed slide  28,  "CASH  FLOWS IN  THE  GEFONSI                                                                    
OPERATING ACCOUNT."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary looked at slide  29, "Historic Actual Cash Inflows                                                                    
and  Outflows FY  2017    2019*," which  showed a  bar graph                                                                    
depicting total  cash inflows and  total cash  outflows. She                                                                    
commented that  often there would  be money in  the treasury                                                                    
that stopped  on its way  to where it  was going in  the GF,                                                                    
which  would  be an  inflow.  The  same  funds could  go  to                                                                    
another  fund   for  program   expenditures  and   would  be                                                                    
considered an  outflow; and the  graph might make  it appear                                                                    
as if a lot  more money was coming in and  going out than in                                                                    
reality. She pointed  out that the next cash  amount in 2017                                                                    
and  2018  had more  cash  outflows  than inflows.  The  CBR                                                                    
borrowing,  shown by  the yellow  bar, offset  the situation                                                                    
fairly well. She  pointed out that in 2019 there  was a blue                                                                    
bar representing  the ERA appropriation  that was  taken for                                                                    
FY 19 and almost offset the outflow.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if the  appropriation was  the POMV                                                                    
draw of 5.25 percent.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary answered in the affirmative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof looked at  2019, and asked if  the green                                                                    
bar included  federal money, mineral  revenue, and  all cash                                                                    
coming in.  She pondered if  the federal dollars  were taken                                                                    
out, the  blue bar  became a bigger  portion of  the General                                                                    
Fund. She thought  the point was that the blue  bar was very                                                                    
small when you considered the  total; however the amount was                                                                    
65 percent of what was available to allocate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  stated that Co-Chair  von Imhof was  correct. The                                                                    
blue line  looked too small  and was  a portion of  the cash                                                                    
supporting operations.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if the department could  get back to                                                                    
the committee with  regard to the relationship  of the total                                                                    
less the federal funds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Leary  addressed   slide  30,   "Seasonal  Cash   Flow                                                                    
Fluctuations":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      June  Annual oil & gas property tax revenue.                                                                           
      July  Debt service payments.                                                                                           
      Re-appropriation (July & August):                                                                                      
          o Finishing prior FY expenditures + current FY                                                                        
             expenditures.                                                                                                      
          o Allocating funds in or out of GF per new                                                                            
             legislation.                                                                                                       
      Summer  Peak season for construction projects and                                                                      
        seasonal workers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:26:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  showed  slide  31, "CASH  IN  THE  GENERAL  FUND                                                                    
PROPER."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  advanced  to  slide   32,  "Daily  General  Fund                                                                    
Sufficiency Balance  Calculation," which showed  a graphical                                                                    
flow chart.  She reminded  that the  treasury looked  at the                                                                    
daily   cash  balance,   subtracted  obligations   and  cash                                                                    
receipts in suspense, in order  to determine the sufficiency                                                                    
of the cash balance.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary   turned  to  slide  33,   "FY2020  GENERAL  FUND                                                                    
FORECAST."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  noted that slides 34  and 35 showed a  graph that                                                                    
could  be found  on the  treasury website  that was  updated                                                                    
every  day. The  "A"  chart  was for  the  beginning of  any                                                                    
fiscal year,  and the "B" chart  was for the end.  The graph                                                                    
was a visualization  of what the model was  showing for cash                                                                    
balance  needs  into  the  future.  She  highlighted  larger                                                                    
transactions that impacted cash availability.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary considered  slide 34,  "General Fund  Sufficiency                                                                    
July  1, 2019    December  31,  2019," which  showed a  line                                                                    
graph showing the  first six months of the  fiscal year. She                                                                    
pointed  out large  transfers in  the Public  Education Fund                                                                    
and pension contribution transfer  for about $650 million at                                                                    
the   start  of   the  year.   Just  after,   there  was   a                                                                    
replenishment of $500 from the  ERA to the General Fund. She                                                                    
made   note  of   other  smaller   transfers,  after   which                                                                    
additional funds from the ERA  were needed, particularly for                                                                    
the PFD disbursement. She noted  that the items were tracked                                                                    
closely,  and the  division relied  heavily on  the previous                                                                    
year's net cash flow imprint to base modelling on.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:30:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  reviewed  slide 35,  "General  Fund  Sufficiency                                                                    
January 1, 2020   June 30,  2020," which showed a line graph                                                                    
addressing  what  was  anticipated for  the  subsequent  six                                                                    
months from  the previous slide.  She noted  one significant                                                                    
change  for the  second half  of the  year was  to implement                                                                    
monthly   Public  Education   Fund  transfers   rather  than                                                                    
quarterly, which was creating  a smoothing effect in dealing                                                                    
with  some of  the state's  cash flow  needs. She  addressed                                                                    
Senator  Olson's  question  and  noted  that  the  quarterly                                                                    
receipt  from  the  earnings was  generally  timed  for  the                                                                    
historical  public education  transfer and  additional funds                                                                    
were requested if  needed. The goal was to  maintain above a                                                                    
$400 million balance threshold.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if the intra-fund  amounts borrowed had                                                                    
increased, decreased, or stayed the same.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  explained that  not  all  the transfers  were                                                                    
borrowed; the  money being transferred  from the ERA  was an                                                                    
appropriation.  When money  coming from  the CBR  was coming                                                                    
via  the  operating  language  backstop,   it  was  also  an                                                                    
appropriation  after having  passed  the three-quarter  vote                                                                    
threshold. The  funds did have  to be repaid  eventually. He                                                                    
thought the term "borrowing" could  mean multiple things and                                                                    
was confusing.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  articulated  that  the  technically  when                                                                    
funds were  taken from the  CBR, the  monies had to  be paid                                                                    
back  at   no  interest.  Any   surplus  in  a   given  year                                                                    
automatically flowed  back to the  CBR if there was  a debt.                                                                    
There  was currently  an approximately  $10 billion  debt to                                                                    
the  CBR. He  thought if  there was  a surplus  of recurring                                                                    
revenue it would automatically go back to the CBR.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill stated  that the  point  of the  chart was  to                                                                    
illustrate what the  overall cash position was  on any given                                                                    
day.  In order  to meet  the  policy of  maintaining a  $400                                                                    
million daily cash balance, the flows were timed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman reminded that he would run the meeting.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:33:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof understood that any  surplus funds would                                                                    
get transferred  back to the CBR.  She asked if there  was a                                                                    
trigger or upper limit.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary stated there was  no upper limit, and the treasury                                                                    
tried to  manage the  money as closely  as possible  to what                                                                    
was needed.  The trigger  was when it  was thought  that the                                                                    
balance would  dip below $400  million for  five consecutive                                                                    
days. The  treasury set a  schedule at the beginning  of the                                                                    
year  based  on  forecasts,  which sometimes  needed  to  be                                                                    
adjusted as quarterly revenues came  in higher or lower than                                                                    
expected. She continued that the  treasury tended to ask for                                                                    
enough funds  to use for  two or  three months and  tried to                                                                    
maintain the  smallest balance possible so  that funds could                                                                    
be invested elsewhere at a higher targeted rate.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof was curious  about the trigger for moving                                                                    
funds  back  to  the  CBR.  She  observed  there  was  three                                                                    
instances where  amounts were  transferred from  the General                                                                    
Fund to the CBR.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:35:39 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:03 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  explained that there  had been a  brief at                                                                    
ease  to  discuss  the  question of  the  upper  range  that                                                                    
triggered funds to flow back to the CBR.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  stated that  the transfers back  to the  CBR were                                                                    
funds that  were supposed to be  in the CBR rather  than the                                                                    
GF, such as royalties.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if the  chart would look different if                                                                    
the transactions were not present.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  stated  that the  transfers  were  relatively                                                                    
small  amounts  and  would  not make  the  chart  look  much                                                                    
different. He was not aware of an upper limit trigger.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary spoke to slide 36, "FY2021 GENERAL FUND FORECAST                                                                      
(using FY19 actuals)."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary noted that slides 37  and 38 showed the best guess                                                                    
at the  time for FY  21, divided  into the first  and second                                                                    
six months of the year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary discussed  slide  37,  "General Fund  Sufficiency                                                                    
July 1,  2020    December 31, 2020,"  which showed  what the                                                                    
treasury  anticipated will  be happening  for the  year. She                                                                    
noted that the division did  not normally forecast more than                                                                    
six  months  in  advance   because  there  were  significant                                                                    
changes.  She  continued  that  the  slide  was  up  on  the                                                                    
division's website. It was possible  to see general patterns                                                                    
of cash  inflows and cash outflows.  at the start of  FY 21,                                                                    
she  anticipated  large  needs   for  public  education  and                                                                    
pension contribution  transfers. It was possible  to see the                                                                    
schedule  for the  ERA transfer  to the  General Fund  would                                                                    
occur as anticipated in July, September, and December.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:39:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary addressed  slide  38,  "General Fund  Sufficiency                                                                    
January  1, 2021    June  30, 2021,"  which showed  the same                                                                    
line graph from the previous  slide updated for the next six                                                                    
months.  She pointed  out the  remaining  request for  funds                                                                    
would  come from  the CBR,  since the  currently anticipated                                                                    
ERA allocation  of $1.086 billion  in the  governor's budget                                                                    
would be exhausted.  There would be a need  for $1.4 billion                                                                    
from the CBR for cash flow purposes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about the balance of the CBR.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  stated that currently  there was $2.1  billion in                                                                    
the CBR.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if under  the scenario there  was an                                                                    
expected  CBR balance  of $600  million in  the next  fiscal                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barnhill  stated  that  the   OMB  fiscal  summary  had                                                                    
projected a $542 billion residual balance in the CBR.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary affirmed  that the graph on slide  38 contained an                                                                    
estimate of where the money was needed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  the committee  would take  a more                                                                    
detailed look  at the subject  as the budget  was considered                                                                    
and  would discuss  how to  fund the  deficit. He  commented                                                                    
that choices were limited.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman looked  at slide  38  and asked  if it  was                                                                    
accurate to say that on  June 30, 2021, the amount available                                                                    
in the CBR would be $500 million.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill answered in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  asked  at   what  point  did  end-year                                                                    
borrowing become deficit borrowing.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill stated  that the OMB fiscal  summary showed the                                                                    
deficit as $1.5 billion, so  there was deficit borrowing. He                                                                    
reiterated that  the state was  using its rainy-day  fund as                                                                    
recurring revenue, which was  deficit spending and borrowing                                                                    
from the rainy-day fund.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  went back to  slide 37  and noted that  the first                                                                    
time there was borrowing from the CBR was in December 2020.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought  some   people  in  the  building                                                                    
advocated  for structural  deficits, which  would eventually                                                                    
make the state go broke.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barnhill  agreed, and  stated that the  chart on  page 3                                                                    
functionally  served as  a countdown  clock. He  thought the                                                                    
point of the  whole presentation was to show  that there was                                                                    
a  structural  deficit  that  needed  to  be  addressed.  It                                                                    
occurred  to  him  that there  a  chicken-and-egg  that  had                                                                    
emerged.  He  thought  everyone  would  agree  there  was  a                                                                    
structural  deficit  and  pondered what  changes  the  state                                                                    
would make  to the fiscal  structure. He continued  that DOR                                                                    
could tell the  legislature what the right  cushion would be                                                                    
based on the changes. He thought  that he had heard from the                                                                    
committee that  it wanted to  hear what the cushion  was and                                                                    
then decide  on structural  changes. He  thought as  long as                                                                    
there  was agreement  on the  assumption that  there was  as                                                                    
structural problem, the issue could be worked through.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:43:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski requested the chart  on slide 38 with a                                                                    
projection of July 1, 2021 through June 30, 2022.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary stated that the second  half of the chart would be                                                                    
an  estimate based  on a  model,  and that  cash flows  were                                                                    
extrapolated  even  further  from revenue  forecasting.  She                                                                    
stated that  the department  could do  the estimate,  but it                                                                    
might not be as useful as anticipated.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the  department would  return when                                                                    
the  committee  got  further  into  the  discussion  of  the                                                                    
account  balances  under   different  budget  scenarios.  He                                                                    
thought  Senator   Wielechowski  had  raised   a  legitimate                                                                    
question  and  concern. He  thought  a  projection would  be                                                                    
easier to do  an estimate on a quarterly  basis. He pondered                                                                    
how the budget would set up future years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary reviewed slide 39, "Take Aways":                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
         Cash flow forecasting is always wrong.                                                                              
         Even if the State budget is balanced, borrowing                                                                     
          for cash flow deficits will occur.                                                                                    
         Budget deficit borrowing may occur if forecasted                                                                    
          assumptions are wrong.                                                                                                
         How much is borrowed depends on the actual                                                                          
          amounts and timing of revenues and expenses.                                                                          
         Higher Revenue Volatility requires greater Rainy                                                                    
          Day fund reserves.                                                                                                    
         Volatility management techniques are available.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thought the commissioner would be back in                                                                      
committee several times, as well as staff as appropriate.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed the agenda the following day.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:47:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:47 a.m.                                                                                         

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012720 Savings Accounts and Cash Flow presentation Senate Finance January 27 2020.pdf SFIN 1/27/2020 9:00:00 AM
Savings Accounts and Cash Flow